Session Start: Sat Aug 08 00:00:00 2015 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[19:39]<newuser> What is this channel mainly about?
[19:42]<@jacky> newuser: Hello
[19:42]<@jacky> it started, quite some time ago, with an affiliation with a computer website
[19:42]<@jacky> as a "help" channel
[19:43]<@jacky> thus, it still is - even though the website is long defunct
[19:43]<@jacky> however, most of us know each other, and just chat
[19:43]<@jacky> feel free to stick around, if you wish
[19:43]<@jacky> :)
[19:43]<newuser> Okay, cool. I was banned from Computer Hope a week ago for just helping a user and having a debate with a mod, so I want to join some other, non-corrupt chat.
[19:43] * newuser is now known as TrivisionZero
[19:44]<@jacky> bans here, are a reaction to bad behavior
[19:44]<@jacky> and rare
[19:44]<TrivisionZero> Okay awesome, I just like helping people and getting help, if needed.
[19:44]<@jacky> It is not often here
[19:44]<@jacky> but feel free to hang around
[19:47]<TrivisionZero> What do you think is the best looking IRC client for windows?
[19:47]<@jacky> best "looking" ?
[19:47]<@jacky> beats me
[19:48]<@jacky> I've used mIRC for ages, and I don't even try to make it look like anything
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> I use mIRC also
[19:48]<@jacky> TrivisionZero: how did you hear of us?
[19:48]<@jacky> BC_Programming: hello
[19:48]<TrivisionZero> On the computer hope forums
[19:48]<@jacky> oh?
[19:48]<@jacky> got a link?
[19:48]<TrivisionZero> They say it's better than ch
[19:48]<@jacky> who is "they" ?
[19:49]<TrivisionZero> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,140599.0.html
[19:49]<TrivisionZero> Well, one person there
[19:49]<@jacky> interesting
[19:50]<@jacky> and... he is here too
[19:50]<@jacky> :)
[19:50]<TrivisionZero> :p
[19:50]<TrivisionZero> Well, I mean best looking, as in Hangouts type chat client
[19:50]<@jacky> I dont' know what Hangouts is or means
[19:50]<@jacky> sorry
[19:51]<@BC_Programming> IRC is a more straightforward chat protocol, so most IRC clients are straightforward in their presentation. I don't know of many that will do things like emoticons and such
[19:51]<TrivisionZero> Google Hangouts/Skype/etc looking style
[19:52]<TrivisionZero> Modern, I guess
[19:52]<@jacky> well.. you just figured out that I'm not "modern"
[19:52]<@jacky> heehehehehe
[19:52]<TrivisionZero> lol
[19:52]<@jacky> you are using the mibbit web page thing-y?
[19:53]<@BC_Programming> Skype is garbage IMO... have to use it for work. It works but can't say much more than that
[19:53]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Skype is video phone, isn't it?
[19:54]<TrivisionZero> Right now, yeah But the url is irc.lc
[19:55]<@jacky> you might like to try some real clients, instead
[19:55]<@jacky> !say *irc*
[19:55]<@jacky> !say hydrairc
[19:55]<@jacky> !say kvirc
[19:55]<@jacky> !say mirc
[19:55]<@BC_Programming> jacky: skype does video chats but it also has text chats
[19:55]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ok
[19:55]<@jacky> BC_Programming: which do you use?
[19:55]<@BC_Programming> never used the video chat
[19:56]<@jacky> too ugly, huh?
[19:56]<@BC_Programming> though for meetings discussions we'll sometimes use audio and screen sharing
[19:56]<@BC_Programming> meetings and *
[19:56]<@jacky> why don't they just use irc, if all they need is text chat like this right now?
[19:56]<TrivisionZero> I'm getting HexChat
[19:57]<@jacky> I forgot that one.
[19:57]<@jacky> I've heard it is good
[19:59]<@jacky> !say hexchat
[19:59]<@jacky> hah
[19:59]<@jacky> :)
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[20:02]<@BC_Programming> heh
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[20:03]<@jacky> how do you like Hexchat, so far?
[20:03]<TrivisionZero> Looks very simple, but not modern :
[20:03]<TrivisionZero> :(
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> IRC has been discussed as an alternative, I'm trying to find the discussion.
[20:04]<@jacky> BC_Programming: cool
[20:04]<@jacky> TrivisionZero:
[20:04]<@jacky> <&BC_Programming> IRC is a more straightforward chat protocol, so most IRC clients are straightforward in their presentation. I don't know of many that will do things like emoticons and such
[20:04]<@jacky> 
[20:04]<@jacky> :)
[20:05]<TrivisionZero> I wish I could program, so I could make an IRC client designed with Google's Material Design
[20:06]<@jacky> ok, ... I guess
[20:06]<@jacky> I have no idea what " Google's Material Design" is....
[20:07]<@jacky> is it hot around Fort Worth today?
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> Apparently it is Google's Design ethic/methodology. https://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html Tells me nothing useful about it
[20:10]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I'll take your word for it. :)
[20:10]<TrivisionZero> Do any of you have an Android?
[20:11]<@jacky> that's what BC really is? ever seen BC's selfie? http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/d/d7/Data_TNG.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060620113251
[20:11]<TrivisionZero> ...
[20:11]<@jacky> heh
[20:11]<@jacky> <TrivisionZero> Do any of you have an Android? <<< not me
[20:12]<TrivisionZero> Windows phone? Old 1990s mobile phone that requires a huge belt battery pack?
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> I've never owned a smartphone
[20:17]<@jacky> 867-5309 <<< BC's phone number
[20:18]<@BC_Programming> User interfaces designed for Smartphones simply are not scalable to Full-trust desktop systems, no matter how much specious marketing crap Google or Microsoft may write on the subject
[21:05]<TrivisionZero> Well, all Google's products are designed to mimick Material Design, but not YouTube so much...yte
[21:05]<TrivisionZero> yet*
[21:06]<+camerongray> I doubt you'll find a good looking IRC client, they are very much a "function over form" thing
[21:06]<@BC_Programming> I found it, we are using Skype because nobody has been able to convince our General Manager to use something else
[21:07]<+camerongray> IRC is great but you do need to be pretty well invested in it for it to work well
[21:07]<+camerongray> Like you can't just use it casually, joining in and leaving channels regularly and expect it to work well
[21:07]<+camerongray> I sit connected 24/7 so I can actually see what is going on
[21:08]<+camerongray> TrivisionZero: We don't really do much in terms of computer help here nowadays but you are totally welcome to hang out and chat
[21:08]<+camerongray> There's also ##Computer-Help-Chat over on Freenode but it again isn't super high traffic in terms of help
[21:09]<+camerongray> However, both of these channels have decent moderation :P
[21:09]<+camerongray> Pretty much everyone in here, myself included, have totally given up on the CH IRC channel
[21:09]<TrivisionZero> Do you know any chats like the CH chat, with as many people as them, but with actuall nice moderators like here?
[21:09]<TrivisionZero> actual*
[21:10]<@BC_Programming> I was never really a participant in CH. Do I get bonus points?
[21:10]<+camerongray> Well, your bonus is still having your sanity :P
[21:10]<@BC_Programming> I mean there was that argument with db where I was talking to a brick wall
[21:10]<+camerongray> TrivisionZero: #bleepingcomputer over on GeekShed is the only one I'm in, although I rarely say anything
[21:10]<+camerongray> haha
[21:11]<+camerongray> It's amazing how much better I feel since I gave up on CH, never realised how much it actually affected me
[21:11]<TrivisionZero> Do you know Quantos?
[21:11]<+camerongray> Yeah, he's in here
[21:11]<@BC_Programming> "Sorry guys on the phone with a client" No your boss telling you which toilets are clogged is not the same thing
[21:11]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: HAHAH
[21:12]<+camerongray> Actually , , iIT thinkg you';l find that the best mainfames , are made by,, *IBM*
[21:12]<TrivisionZero> He's the one who banned me for helping, like many others :/
[21:12]<@BC_Programming> to a tee
[21:12]<+camerongray> Wonder what he'd think of the new servers we bought at work
[21:12]<+camerongray> He'd probably totally freak because Dell and HP are terrible :P
[21:12]<+camerongray> £15,000 of new servers, I was somehow trusted with them
[21:13]<+camerongray> TrivisionZero: Yeah, I certainly don't agree with much about how CH is run
[21:13]<+camerongray> Or anything for that matter
[21:13]<+camerongray> One of the reasons I stopped helping was that I was downright embarrased by it and I was terrified that someone I knew would join and associate me with the crap that goes on
[21:14]<@BC_Programming> "My computer won't boot, I just get a black screen and no beeps" "did you try safe mode"
[21:14]<+camerongray> haha, that is such a common one of his
[21:14]<+camerongray> The incompetence of people astounds me
[21:15]<+camerongray> That's what I love about where I work, everyone actually knows what they are doing
[21:15]<@BC_Programming> I was just thinking the same
[21:16]<+camerongray> And there's no IT department arseholes like DB
[21:16]<@BC_Programming> well we don't always know what we're doing because priorities are changes so much
[21:16]<+camerongray> We decide we need new servers, I find some totalling £15,000, meet with my boss, buy them
[21:16]<@BC_Programming> one day "this is top priority" then the next day it's something else... OK do I drop the other top priority thing
[21:16]<+camerongray> And yes, they are shiny
[21:17]<@BC_Programming> Same but I wasn't involved in the hardware or setup, I just installed jenkins on it
[21:17]<+camerongray> Pair of HP DL180 g6s with a pair of 6 core Xeon L5640s and 64gb RAM and then a pair of Dell R630s with a pair of 6 core Xeon E5-2620s with 128gb of DDR4 RAM
[21:17]<+camerongray> If I had to deal with DB, oh god
[21:18]<+camerongray> I think the difficulty with a lot of people is that they get stuck in the IT department and are sort of transparent to everyone else as "the guy that fixes computers" so they sort of feel the need to big themselves up
[21:24]<TrivisionZero> Hey what hard drive would you reccommend for 2TB? Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi, etc
[21:24]<+camerongray> Nowadays they are all pretty much fine, I tend to stick to WD nowadays though
[21:24]<+camerongray> Really just because I like how they have their range quite well divided for different purposes
[21:25]<@BC_Programming> I have a 4GB WD Red and a 3GB Seagate Barracuda
[21:25]<+camerongray> Red for NAS, Blue for regular PCs, Black for performance, SE for scalability, RE for reliable servers, Green for low power e.g. External HDDs
[21:25]<@BC_Programming> just steer clear of the Seagate 7200.11's, they have a firmware bug or something
[21:28]<TrivisionZero> Okay, thanks. I'm getting a Kingston 120gb SSD (my first) and a 2TB Seagate Barracuda
[21:28]<+camerongray> Not overly happy with Kingston SSDs if I'm honest
[21:28]<+camerongray> They did quite a scummy thing by selling great SSDs and once they got good reviews they switched them for worse performing flash
[21:28]<+camerongray> I stick to Crucial and Samsung myself
[21:29]<@BC_Programming> I have a Seagate SSD in this computer, and a SanDisk SSD in my laptop and my AMD computer in my other room which I never use
[21:30]<TrivisionZero> Are Crucial and Samsung SSDs more expensive though?
[21:30]<+camerongray> Not particularly
[21:31]<+camerongray> Well worth the price difference
[21:31]<+camerongray> We just bought 4x Crucial MX200s at work (250gb each) as well as 9x 4tb WD SE HDDs :P
[21:31]<+camerongray> I run a 250gb MX100 in my desktop
[21:35]<TrivisionZero> Here's the three I'm debating to get: http://pastebin.com/WGnyPKaA
[21:36]<+camerongray> Samsung without a doubt from those three
[21:37]<TrivisionZero> Okay, thanks
[21:37]<TrivisionZero> gotta re-order then
[21:38]<TrivisionZero> I've never seen such good reviews for something on Amazon
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